…are you seriously suggesting that post in any way said we should value white cis male educators
This is what I literally said that it was doing: “setting up a system where cis men are valued over cis women.” That does not mean that the OP is holding up white cis men as the paragon of all sex educators—or that OP even believes that white cis men should be valued as educators. I was addressing the standard set up by the post.
> Cis women are dfab
> Cis men are not
> So a standard that dismisses people’s work as an educator (or “educator”) because that person was designated female at birth is a standard that all cis men pass and all cis women fail.
>Yes, I do have a problem with that. And yes, I think these things can easily be avoided be just knowing what the fuck you are talking about.
>Because there are situations where birth assignment is relevant to who should be speaking. Those situations are confined to the trans community—and even then, what we’re really talking about is who experiences transmisogyny, not whose doctors said what after looking at our genitals.
> But “dfab” is NOT a privileged community. “Dfab trans people” is a relatively privileged community over dmab trans people, and many dfab trans people have other privileges (like male privilege) as well.
> This isn’t the first time that stuff like this has happened. Both: it isn’t the first time people have generalized birth assignment to such an extent that it stops making sense, and this isn’t the first time that people have complained that there are too many cis women working in social-justice-type fields without having the same complaint about cis men.
>Intellectual laziness about birth assignment ends up perpetuating transphobia. It’s worth pointing out when you see it. It’s not a condemnation of the person who wrote it or of discussions about relative privilege within the trans community.
p.s. I would ignore this question if it came from a follower I didn’t know. I’m pretty much always willing to clarify what I it is I said because these things can be fraught and confusing—particularly when you’re trying to figure out what someone with privilege over you thinks about their privilege. But I was making a point worth making.
you are taking someone’s anger at racist transmisogyny and making it about ‘what about the [white] cis women’ because it’s language wasn’t specific enough about cis people, THIS IS NOT OKAY
the op never fucking suggested that WHITE CIS MEN should be more represented in ‘sex educator’ roles
taking anger against dfab people by those with less power and pretending that we’re speaking in favor of cis men rather than ourselves is fucking transmisogynist
god i hate it when [white*] dfab people - yeah, cis or trans - pull this shouldn’t-be-identified-by-that bullshit
I WOULD FUCKING LOVE TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO EVER, EVER, NOT BE IDENTIFIED BY HAVING BEEN DMAB, THE ‘REALLY A MAN’ TRANNY FREAK
*[I am also white! I add this because i almost never see any person of color - cis, dfab, even men - pulling this fuckery, it is our problem as white folks specifically rather than a ‘cis problem’ or ‘dfab trans people problem’ in general]
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