If anyone needs to know what we mean when we say “white feminists.”
The perfect gif set for this.
If anyone needs to know what we mean when we say “white feminists.”
The perfect gif set for this.
Even though my personal preference would have been for Mako and Raleigh to do the final moment together, I will forever appreciate that we got a scene where a white man thought an Asian woman’s life was worth more than his and actually made sure she would survive for sure while he want on suicide run where survival was uncertain, but unlikely, even if he did survive in the end.
Which is also why it annoys me when I see people in Mako’s tag say that it would have been more ‘feminist’ (and I guess ‘anti-racist’, though not like these people ever acknowledge that Mako isn’t white) if she had saved him and ejected him from the pod and even died herself, because do you know how damn often in white man/Asian woman pairings especially, the Asian woman is supposedly to nobly die for the white man while he moves on? And the whole ‘stoic Asian who dies so the white man can live as he accepts his death with honour~’ crap.
I’m not even getting into how apparently to some people, not having a ‘plot hole’ of the second escape pod magically surviving a nuclear blast is apparently more important than an Asian woman actually surviving a film and not sacrificing herself for a white man.
1) the pilot of the right hemisphere/brain seems to take ‘lead’ and call out directions
examples: Yancy, Stacker, Herc, Sasha
Which is interesting because ‘left brain’ is supposed to be the logical side, and yet del Toro has the emotional/intuitive side controlling the ‘right side’.
Could also be a subversion/balance in that in Jaeger piloting in that to balance the intuitive side, the more ‘logical’ partner sits on the right hand. Which is interesting characterization-wise, because Raleigh moves from left side to right side.
I have no clue how the Chinese triplets manage this.
(I really need to watch the movie again to track how much Raleigh and Chuck speaks during their battles; I know that Alexis barely spoke, ditto with all three of the triplets)
2) If one is using Western and Masculine ideals to judge whether or not Mako Mori has agency in this movie, there’s major fail going on.
What I mean in specific is that, in the culture in the home in which I was raised, in the media that my parents watch, Restraint, Control, Focus, and Respect are prized. If you are arguing that Mako Mori lacked agency using these characteristics as your argument, then there is fail going on.
If you don’t even recognize when/how these characteristics are being represented, the cultural contexts for these ideals, then you should stay out of the conversation.
Just as Feminism doesn’t mean that all Women needs to be Men, needs to have ‘male’ power, and ‘male’ attributes, neither do Western ideals of what ‘power’ and ‘strength’ is is the end-all-be-all of strength. Just as ‘male’ attributes in themselves is a construct and oftentimes flawed, so, imo, are Western ideals of ‘power’ and ‘strength’.
It’s a complicated and tied-in conversation/argument; it’s from the same place that Asian men are viewed as ‘feminine’ and ‘weak’.
Think about that for a second.
Think about how many levels of bullshit is in the phrase “asian men are feminine”, because the asian ideals of strength are often not recognizable to westerners.
Now apply that to all conversations about Mako Mori.
2a) That fight between Raleigh and Chuck over Mako being called ‘bitch’ was frankly about the boys. She has little to nothing to do with the fight, they did NOT cut to her reaction. We are NOT shown closeups of people approving of the fight, NOT shown Mako approving of the fight or looking pleased or looking like she’s being defended.
Here is the sequence of how a ‘protective scene’ is edited:
Threatening opponent -> Fearful reaction of victim -> Protagonist stepping in (usually bodily) -> Antagonist escalating -> optional: reaction of victim -> Protagonist action/reaction -> Exchange of blows, wide shot for context + closeup of face/struggle -> reaction shots of victim approval and/or background characters approval -> more fighting/fight end
The reaction/approval of the victim and background is key for this to work, take the Dennifer ‘I’ll rip your throat out’ sequence for example or for a failure of the same concept take any of the fight sequences in Man of Steel.
Want to see a successful version of this? Captain America in the bank during the final battle in Avengers. You’re always rooted/referencing back to the ‘victims’ in the bank, the people who Captain America is protecting.
Mako restrained herself when the slur was being used against her, and was not part of the fight at all. She was not actually being protected, Raleigh was flying off the handle.
It was the physical equivalent to Mako not controlling herself in the Jaegar, and pretty much got Raleigh as shunned during the lunch scene, because that scene ended with the knowledge that Raleigh has done just as shitty a thing, physically attacking one of their most prized Jaegar teams.
3) #2 has little to do with the fact that Pacific Rim not only fails the Bechdel test, does not exceed 17% female population in both main and background characters, and has a racist name for the lead Jaegar. What I wouldn’t have given for Newt to be an intense female surgeon a la Christina Yang (Grey’s Anatomy). And seriously side-eyeing the fact that not only did they use a racial slur in the name, but they used the more offensive spelling.
4) If one is making the narrative argument that Mako did not have agency (in contrast to the characterization argument that she did not have agency, in which case, see #2) in regards to the scene where she gets ejected, may I please point out that she is taking the narrative role mirroring Raleigh’s brother. It’s a mirror of the intro sequence in Alaska with Yancy being torn away from Raleigh and their Jaegar damaged.
This is separate from the issue that we should have more female headliners of a movie. There is frankly not enough story time in a movie for a fleshed out ensemble cast, unless you’re from a comics franchise whose characterizations are already fleshed out.
At most, you have one main POV character.
This is even true of Avengers, given that we’re mainly following Tony Stark who has most of the main story beats. Does that, however, make Steve Rogers less important, even though he didn’t ride the nuke into the other dimension and only participated on the ground, and sometimes could only watch and/or was taken out of the action? Steve didn’t even catch Tony when he fell, even though Captain America participated in the battle before the nuke happened.
Does that mean that Steve Rogers didn’t have agency because he didn’t participate in that final moment?
I would argue that no, he simply wasn’t the main POV character, and you have to have one character who’s arc backbones the movie or it falls apart. In Avengers it was Tony Stark. In Pacific Rim it was Raleigh Beckett.
That does not make Steve Rogers any less important. And it does not make Mako Mori less important.
It also doesn’t mean that we should stop asking for a main POV character who is female. Because we should keep asking.
It also doesn’t mean that Pacific Rim shouldn’t have more moments contextualizing Mako or showing her among the engineers, because we only see hints of this in her room, in the way they reacted to her.
I would dearly love to see an outtake where you discover her making a Jaegar suit for herself, because time and resources do not come cheap, and her men helping her because they respect her that much that they the idea of her not ending up a pilot is unfathomable.
If ‘Pacific Rim’ is apparently the worst film ever in terms of representation of women, then I would very much like many more films that are just like it in terms of being ‘terrible’ and ‘the worst’ about women.
#theres no gendered violence#no sexualisation #no fetishisation #women arent used as plot devices#the lead is a japanese woman#the only time theres a sexist slur the offender gets beaten up and proven wrong and also dies#but yeah super sexist movie!!! worst ever!!! #pacific rim spoilers#like i wish we were overreacting but the amnt of vitriol directed at PR and mako is staggering#its on tumblr its on movie review websites on other blogs #ffs #transparent bullshit
- tag credits to juna
reblogging this because juna omg!!!!! I missed this on my dash but aaahhhhh you’re so wonderful
Audre Lorde, “Age, Race, Class, and Sex: Women Redefining Difference” (via sundayafternoonsocialclub)
[WARNING: extreme antiblack violence, murder, death]
“Some problems we share as women, some we do not. You [white women] fear your children will grow up to join the patriarchy and testify against you; we fear our children will be dragged from a car and shot down in the street, and you will turn your backs on the reasons they are dying.”
Also I don’t see enough white feminists giving credit to Nicki Minaj beyond the interview of her doing her eyeliner. Did you guys forget that she recognized and IDed as cisgender, and recognized that vagina does not equal womanhood, when she called herself a “woman with vagina.” And that asshole talk show host laughed and said “as opposed to a women without one?” and she gave him a the meanest look and said “yes.” We need to gif that.
Dear Wendy Davis,
No matter what happens tonight I just want you to know you have shown women all over the nation, maybe even the world, that they can fight for their own rights.
You have given them a voice. You have shown them how to be strong.
Dear Leticia van de Putte,
No matter how many people remember only Wendy Davis’s name, I will remember yours as the voice that triggered a filibuster of the people.
I want to have honest conversations surrounding whether or not we’d be doing this hero worship if Wendy Davis wasn’t a white woman.
I also want to respect the work she put in today (and every other day) along with other amazing legislators like Mary Gonzalez (El Chuco love <3) and Leticia Van de Putte.
Tell me, who wants to talk about this?
(I would volunteer but i don’t have the spoons to do more than laugh/sob bitterly.)
Feminist symbol. Done by Rafael Barba at Nagamoa Tattoo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rafaelbarba/)
São Paulo, Brazil
I just want to talk about this briefly.
This “feminist symbol” is frequently discussed among circles I regularly take part in as an appropriation of the Black Power symbol. The Black Power fist was the original inspiration for this symbol. Along came Lady Whitey and…. Now, it is something that a white person has tattooed on their body. (I’m not even going to talk about the difference between white people with tats and People of Color with tats, that’s a whole other post)
I looked through the notes on this. Not a single person I saw - among all the “LOVE IT” and “I WANT” and the like - said, “Hey, this looks kinda like the black power symbol…”
[White] feminists have co-opted this symbol and made their own special additions to it. They have warped the meaning to suit their own needs. And it is much more acceptable when used by white people than by black folk. And no one is discussing that.
I found it especially annoying to see URLs with photos of white girls next them containing slurs and appropriated words loving on this photo. This tattoo is a good example of how white people will steal anything they want and add their own little meaning to it and act like they invented it and like it’s the best thing evar.
This tattoo is also a good example of why I don’t fucking like white feminists.
I see this tattoo on white people like once a week.