“If you, as a dyadic trans person, insist upon declaring that being forced to use “DMAB” is “inconsequential” no matter how many other trans people disagree with you… then I, as an intersex trans person, declare in turn that not having exclusive use of “CAMAB/CAFAB” is utterly trivial no matter how many other intersex people disagree with me.
Nifty how that works.
did you even look up the thread, goddamn
"I personally don’t have a problem with making the “insignificant and inconsequential shift” in language, except you know what? I’ve had intersex people say that “designated x at birth” is also appropriative or erasing for mimicking the structure of “assigned x at birth”.”
-from alexandraerin, clearly on your side there
there actually hasn’t been a single person in this debate making any reason we should KEEP using axab langauge other than “WE HAD IT FIRST YOURE TAKING IT FROM US!” which, as I just showed above, is blatantly false and backwards, talk of ‘birth assignment’ was used to describe medical abuse of intersex people far before its use caught on as a major piece of trans*-community jargon
also wow “FORCED”(!!!) to stop using axab language? you realize how fucking much you sound like ~anti-pc~ folks, right?
and then completely false equivalancies. No, because our feeling of fucking entitlement to a phrase based on nothing more than a demonstrably false belief that WE HAD IT FIRST!!!! is completely fucking different from people wanting not to hear a phrase due to its legacy of medical abuse.
me dismissing the complaints of people who’re clinging to a complete sense of entitlement and disregard for oppression they haven’t faced is completely different from you… dismissing and disregarding someone else’s pain from oppression that you’ve had a similar(?) experience with
~I’ll be sure to tell all my cis ‘friends’ that you completely approve their logic stating that they shouldn’t have to worry about calling me tr***y because their ‘other trans friend’ said it was okay and didn’t hurt them.~
EDIT: oh forgot to add, nice job of making a huge deal upthread pretending you cared about FACTS and BACKED-UP ARGUMENTS and then completely disregarding when incredibly basic proof you were dead wrong is thrown your way! AND actually cutting off the post where I’d provided said facts!
So, to reiterate:
Also, a cursory google seach later, medical use of ‘assignment’ language referring to medical abuse specifically towards intersex kids dates back to at least 1987, (probably much earlier; as I said, this was just a cursory search, spent about three minutes).
And wow, seeing someone tell someone else that they don’t believe they’re REALLY oppressed that way why don’t they bring out some STUDIES and FACTS is really similar to stuff I’ve gotten from radscum.