GOD I’m so fucking creeped out
I was looking at the blog of that ~totally not transmisogynist~ radfem I’d reblogged last night (hoping in vain for an apology or something)
and ran into a post promoting THIS:
[Image: a giant banner that says “RAD FEM TRANS* FEM”
Welcome to RADfem/TRANS*fem where two feminists, Pi; a radical feminist who identifies as a gender abolitionist, and Jacq; a trans* feminist who identifies as being gender reflective, discuss issues of gender, feminism and patriarchy from two different perspectives.
Come learn with us about the ways in which people from two different feminist backgrounds, that have been criticized from both sides as being misinformed, bigotted, and oppressive, build bridges together and recognize the importance of creating solidarity between both communities because after all, all of us feminists want to have the same thing: respectful, safe, inclusive and consensual conversations that cause us to reflect on patriarchy, sexism and oppression.
If you have any questions that you’d like Jacq and Pi to answer together, please send us an ask!
So I clicked over to this, fearing the worst. And of COURSE, ‘TRANS*FEM’ is not someone who experiences transmisogyny.
Radical Feminist: ravefromthegrave
Trans* Feminist: LIVELAUGHAWESOME
Aside from that introductory post, there are two so far, one by each on gender, and each post affirming that they’re both virulent transmisogynists, here are some excerpts from each:
The more that I’ve talked to Pi (RADfem) though, the more that I’ve come to understand the theory of exactly how much gender is a result of patriarchy and is actually a concept created in order to maintain the oppression of people who are female-assigned. I recognize the validity of the radical feminist belief that we need to destroy gender altogether (gender abolitionism).
(~Patriarchal culture TOTALLY waits to check whether I was female assigned, and upon finding I wasn’t, TOTALLY affords me benefits instead of oppression. Totally.~)
And this gem, ‘cause the radscum of course wants us to know that her entire approach to ‘gender’ is predicated around transmisogyny, featuring a quote from a trans woman completely twisted around to vilify her:
Gender identity is the product of gender. And this is where we often get misunderstood: it’s not that I think trans people’s gender identities in particular aren’t valid - it’s that I think that nobody’s gender identity is valid. It doesn’t matter if you’re trans or not. Gender identity only exists because gender exists. Both are equally socially constructed. And socially constructed doesn’t mean “not real”. I think it was Red Durkin who said something like: “a brick wall is also socially constructed, but it’s still pretty fucking hard to just walk right through it”. And that’s the problem - we can’t step outside of the system. If I could choose not to have a gender assignment, or my assigned gender to not mean anything, I would. But that’s not the point. It doesn’t matter what I choose. Females are still oppressed worldwide because they are female. To say otherwise is to erase female oppression.
There is a difference between sex and gender. Sex is a biological reality, gender is socially constructed roles and norms for these sexes. I know that there are more categories than XX and XY. Those categories doesn’t change the fact that XX and every other category that isn’t XY, is oppressed by XY. To claim that one can identify their way out of their oppression is kind of making a mockery out of women who aren’t privileged enough to make that choice.
(~I’ve never actually BEEN karyotyped, but thank god people check my karyotype before deciding whether to oppress me!~) And on the radfem’s about pages, this, because of fucking course:
I’m in a long term relationship with a FTM transsexual who I met pre-transition (and am still with a year into transition), so I might blog about things related to that, as my personal relationship with a FTM are influencing my politics in this matter.
Ahah. ha. ha.
So yeah. In addition to being terrified and disgusted and before I go hide for a while, I’m just gonna say: this is why.
to allllll the fucking people who don’t experience transmisogyny, the cis folks, the dfab trans folks: this is why we need this language, why we need to talk about it and won’t let you gloss over it and pretend it isn’t there.
This is why you’re automatically assumed to be vile transmisogynist scum.
‘Cause you’ll turn on us and work happily for those who want us dead in a HEARTBEAT if you think you’ll get something out of it - even if it’s just a token of ‘oh, well at least you’re not one of THOSE trans people’ from radscum who’ll go on to misgender and fetishize you.
If they want to make brash statements about oppression being only based on physical sex, it would really help if they actually knew about the biology of sex. The assumption that a particular genotype always co-exists with a particular phenotype is incorrect.